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|3DMark - Time Spy||Titan Xp||H2o vs. Ln2||22995 marks|
|XTU||Core i7 7820X||teracon||3393 marks|
|XTU||Core i7 8700K||mils1||2756 marks|
|XTU||Core i7 8700K||david.hiles.39||2756 marks|
|XTU||Core i7 8700K||bottangelo78||2751 marks|
|3DMark - Time Spy||Titan Xp||H2o vs. Ln2||12825 marks|
|XTU||Core i7 8700K||Xi_GLITCHERS_iX||2745 marks|
|XTU||Core i9 7900X||nacho_arroyo||3692 marks|
|XTU||Core i9 7900X||Theboatswain||3610 marks|
|XTU||Core i7 7820X||thijsiee.tv||2984 marks|
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This week in our GPU Flashback Archive series we cast our minds back to a very popular and well loved graphics card series, the GeForce 400 series. NVIDIA launched the GeForce 400 series in March 2010 armed with a new Fermi architecture that it hoped would help it compete with the successful AMD Radeon 5000 series. Let’s look at the new features that Fermi offered, the cards that were popular and the scores that were submitted to HWBOT in this era.
Compared to previous product launches from NVIDIA, the GeForce 400 series launch did not go as smoothly as hoped. September 2009 saw AMD come out with their Radeon 5000 series which made a solid case against NVIDIA 200 series offerings. It would be January before NVIDIA really started wooing tech media with tales of its forthcoming Fermi architecture lineup. It would be March 2010 before tech media actually got their hands on the new cards and several weeks after that before enthusiasts would be able to actually buy one. This was not the typical NVIDIA launch. Reasons for the delay certainly seemed to lie with issues with actual fabrication at TSMC who were not providing the yields expected on their new 40nm process. This was a problem that particularly hurt NVIDIA due to the fact that the new Fermi GPU, the GF100, was actually very large. When the GeForce 400 series finally arrived in the form of the GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470, by most calculations they were six months late.
We are treated this week to a look at the NVIDIA 200 series of graphics cards. As well as rejigged product nomenclature, the 200 series represents a new and improved architectural approach to the GPU design from NVIDIA who managed to come up with their largest graphics chip ever. The 200 series was the latest weapon in the fight against ATI and one that proved to be fairly potent in terms of raw frame-rates. Let’s take a look at the new architecture, the graphics cards that were popular at the time with overclockers on HWBOT and of course, some of the more notable scores that have been made its introduction.
We mentioned in the previous GeForce 9 series article how this period of history shows plenty of overlap in terms of GPU series. In April 2008 NVIDIA launched the 9 series and the G92 GPU (read all about the 9 series here ) which was based on an improved but largely identical Tesla design. The 9 series served a purpose by bringing to market cheaper high-end enthusiast cards that could compete with ATI. It also eventually gave NVIDIA a chance to test out the 55nm manufacturing process from TSMC using a more familiar architecture. The GeForce 200 series initially launched on 65nm silicon with later revisions taking advantage the 55nm process.
This week the GPU Flashback Archive series turns its attention to the NVIDIA 9 Series of graphics cards that replaced the successful and much loved 8 series. Arriving in April 2008, the new series featured an updated GPU design that eventually found itself built on a new 55nm manufacturing process. The period also marks a time when ATI and NVIDIA were trading blows as equals. An era when taking the performance crown was all that mattered, creating a situation that proved how healthy competition in an industry could indeed be very beneficial for consumers. Let’s go back in time and revisit the NVIDIA 9 Series, the cards that were popular on HWBOT and some of the more notable scores that have been submitted to the database.
The era of the NVIDIA GeForce 9 series is actually one of considerable overlap. When the the 9 series became available in stores at launch on April fool’s day 2008, a full array of 8 series cards were still available in the retail channel. There’s nothing too odd about that, as the previous generation typically gets a price cut to help clear inventory. It is a little odd however when the next generation GTX 200 series arrived on shelves just three months later. Today we’ll try and keep things simple and just focus on exactly what the GeForce 9 series offered. The 9 series may always be compared to the second revision Tesla chips that followed it, but for now we’ll leave the GTX 200 series for next week’s edition.
This week’s trip down GPU memory lane is all about the NVIDIA 8 series of graphics cards, a series that marks the arrival of DirectX 10 and a wholly new GPU architecture. Arriving in late 2006, the NVIDIA 8 series remains a fondly remembered era for many enthusiasts and of course overclockers, especially the GeForce 8800 GTX a card that is still a topic of conversation with some retro-minded HWBOT members today. Let’s take a look at the hardware associated with the GeForce 8 series era, the technology and features that arrived at that time, and some of the scores and submissions that were made using popular GeForce 8800 GTX card.
The NVIDIA 8 series was officially launched on November 8th 2006 with the arrival of a new flagship card, the GeForce 8800 GTX. The card presented a new GPU to the world’s media, the NVIDIA G80, an entirely new design based on the Tesla architecture. The GPU itself was manufactured using a 90nm process, packed a groundbreaking 681 million transistors into a die measuring 484mm². The G80 was designed specifically with DirectX 10 in mind, taking advantage of many of the specific technologies and ideas introduced by Microsoft. One such feature is the implementation of unified shaders.
Today’s trip down GPU memory lane is all about the NVIDIA 7 series that arrived on the scene in June 2005. Where previous GPU designs had heralded major innovations and the introduction of entirely new technologies, the 7 series was more of an update by comparison. The new GPU arrived with a change in nomenclature and notably a change in the way that NVIDIA graphics cards were actually launched - NVIDIA and AIB partners had products shelves on the very same day that the press embargo was lifted. Let’s look at the GPUs and cards that arrived as part of the new 7 series launch, the cards that have since proved to be popular with overclockers on HWBOT and of course, the notable scores that grace our database to this day.
The NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX was launched on June 22nd 2005 as the company’s brand new flagship card offering. At launch the card was immediately available in the retail channel, literally the same day, which at the time was largely unheard of. This was seen as NVIDIA more or less giving ATI the proverbial finger, as previous ATI launches had tended to be prefaced with vague ‘coming soon... we hope’ messaging. The 7800 GTX was based on the G70, the successor to the NV4x series that had powered the GeForce 6 series. The change in naming scheme was apparently a marketing decision with GeForce 7 being better represented by G70 than NV47. The NV70 was largely based on the same architecture as the previous generation and the NV30 generation that preceded it. The G70 again used Shader Model 3.0 with support for the DX9.0c and OpenGL 2.1. Nothing new there. The real interest is when you consider the rendering configuration.
The arrival of AMD Threadripper platform back in August caused a few ripples of excitement for many enthusiasts. However AMD’s latest high-core count chips require plenty of decent cooling if you want to budge them anywhere past stock settings. For many a simple All-in-One cooler is the obvious choice, especially now that there are so many easy-to-install closed-loop variants available these days. When it comes to Threadripper you might not always be getting the most effective AiO closed-loop cooler experience, simply because of the size the chip itself. The TR4 platform is monster big compared to AM4. The surface area of the Threadripper die is way more than most coolers are designed to cope with, which is why some companies are offering coolers that are purpose built for Threadripper and use broader cold plates.
One such company that is pushing out TR4 specific design is Enermax. The Enermax Liqtech 240 and 360 is designed with a wide cold plate that should, in theory offer better thermals than the standard rounded ones that most of us have been using. JayzTwoCents, yes that guy again, has been playing around to find out if using TR4-specific cooler really helps with overclocking in his latest video. Yes… once again a mainstream YouTuber getting down to some overclocking for the masses (…161K views so far pretty much means masses). His video introduces the Enermax Liqtech TR4 cooler, the installation process involved and also look at how well the cooler does under load with Cinebench R15. He also gets down to some basic overclocking to see how the temps reach once higher voltages and frequencies are applied.
Gamers Nexus have also done some great contest focused on how well Threadripper compatible coolers. This video from Steve Burke examines a bunch of coolers that are Threadripper-optimized including the Enermax Liqtech and also a Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3, an air cooler build (as the name would suggest) for the new Threadripper parts. As ever Steve gives some great in-depth insights.
Today we happy to be able to officially announce more important details regarding the forthcoming Overclocking World Championship Final 2017. As you may well be aware, the contest will take place at Caseking HQ in Berlin, Germany on December 9th and 10th and is the climax of a year-long campaign to discover this year’s Overclocking World Champion. Today we are confirming the hardware that will be used in the contest, plus the overall structure and rules in place.
OCWC Final 2017: December 9th and 10th, 2017 - The Overclocking World Championship (OCWC) Final 2017 will be broken down into two separate sections; a Qualification Phase, followed by a series of 1v1 Matches. Here is a general overview of the contest schedule.
OCWC Final 2017: Hardware: - The following hardware restrictions will be enforced for the duration of the contest.
You can find the full list of rules and more details about the contest structure here on the HWBOT World Tour website.
Discuss in the HWBOT Community Forum here.
The latest edition of the OC Show is now available. Originally broadcast live on the OverClocking-TV TwitchTV channel we find in Episode 17 that Trouffman is joined this week by Buildzoid, the chap behind the Actually Hardcore Overclocking YouTube channel. The show starts off with a quick look at what is happening in the HWBOT Country Cup which kicked off around two weeks ago on OC-ESPORTS. At the top of the table we find the USA team making great strides as front runners, which is interesting because they have yet to win a Country Cup, despite being the most represented country on HWBOT in terms of members. Buildzoid however has been busy making his contribution to the Czech cause, making a handy submission in Stage 5 which is all about 3DMark11 P. Meanwhile Trouff is working for the Antarctica team (thanks to a poll result) where he is making the one and only submission so far.
Other topics of discussion include the recent visit by K|ngp|n (US) to the JayzTwoCents studio. The guys are impressed with the production value of the video and the humorous intro – “Did someone say, Overclocking?!!”. It’s a cool video that discusses the art of using LN2 to push GPUs and CPUs to the max. Not a common topic on YouTube usually. Nice to see it hit a more mainstream audience.
In the graphics card market NVIDIA also announced a new version of their flagship Titan Xp card which (oddly for many of us) uses Star Wars branding. Is this simply a Titan Xp with more LEDs? Is Christmas just weeks away? Or is it just a bit of a joke for most enthusiasts? We then come to the news that Intel plans to have another crack at the discrete graphics market and the move of Raja Koduri from AMD’s GPU team to Intel. Are NVIDIA quaking in their boots? Perhaps not anytime soon.
Catch Episode 17 of the OC Show here on the OverClocking-TV YouTube channel.
Discuss in the HWBOT Community Forum here.
The latest podcast from Hardware Asylum is now available. Episode 81 sees Dennis and Darren tackle the subject of PCIe Gen 4.0, a new spec that could well be upon us in the next year or so. They also revisit the 7 Days to Die game that they have been playing recently. Here are the show notes:
PCI Express 4.0 Standard Released - Back in 2003 the first PCI Express standard was released which really changed everything in a modern computer system. Many users take this technology for granted however, without it we wouldn’t have super fast NVMe drives, configurable SLI, AMD Crossfire or even the BItcoin mining systems you see showcased on YouTube. All of those things were made possible, (or improved in the case of SLI) by using PCI Express.
A computer standard it defines how it should work and gives manufactures something to use when designing new products. PCI Express 4.0 supports 64GB/s of transfer bandwidth which is double that of PCI Express 3.0 and is a logical step forward. We suspect it will be about a year before we will start seeing products supporting PCI Express 4.0 and maybe two years before it becomes a mainstream thing. In that time maybe someone can finally make a “good” external graphics option so we can finally kill off the desktop PC. Not that I am in support of that but, that is sadly the way of the future.
Catch episode 81 of the Hardware Asylum podcast here.
Discuss in the HWBOT Community Forum here.
The highly contested and incredibly well participated ROG Showdown Team Edition 2 contest just came to a close here on OC-ESPORTS. The grand finale gathered pace in the last three days of the contest with HW GURUS coming from out of absolutely nowhere, crushing all opposition with a thoroughly dominant win. In runner up spot we find Alza OC while the French Legion made a late push to earn third place on the podium. Let’s take a look at the final standings, the stages, the notable scores that were made and the great prizes that ASUS have lined up for our illustrious winners.
ROG OC Showdown Team Edition: September 22nd - November 6th 2017
Before we get knee deep in competitive OC action, let’s first remind ourselves about what the contest is all about. The ROG OC Showdown Team Edition 2 contest is broken down into five individual stages. Each stage involves a specific benchmark, a specific number of scores that are required, plus restrictions on cooling and the different hardware needed. Perhaps what makes the contest really interesting and unique is that there are also restrictions about which overclockers, from which HWBOT league may compete. Each stage includes limitations to allow Rookie, Novice, Apprentice, Enthusiast, Extreme or Elite league members to compete. The idea is to include challenges for all members of the team, from Rookie to Elite.
Stage 1: XTU 5GHz - Rookie and Novices
Stage 1 of the contest pits Rookie and Novices against each other in a straight up XTU fight. There is however one twist - CPUs are limited to 5GHz to prevent the stage becoming a straight up frequency and binning scrap. No subzero cooling is allowed as CPUs have to be shown to be above 60 degrees celsius. Like all stages in the contest, an ASUS motherboard is a requirement. Three submissions using any quad-core CPU and below are required.
Our champions HW Gurus take the win here with Rookies Golub (Serbia), Nemanja (Serbia) and Nadel1 (Serbia) demonstrating the strength of Serbian overclocking with an average score of 1794.67 marks XTU. This is just ahead of French Legion with an average XTU score of 1,784.67 marks and Alza OC with 1,770.67 marks. ROG Czech OC Guys arrive in 4th with /r/overclocking in 5th.
Read the full ASUS ROG OC Showdown Team Edition 2 contest roundup article here on OC-ESPORTS where you can also learn about the contest winners and prizes in full.
Discuss on the HWBOT Forum here.
For the last week or so there have been reports of a few AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs spotted in the wild that actually have more cores and threads than they should have. Both AMD Ryzen 5 1600 and Ryzen 5 1600X processors are sold as 6 core / 12 thread parts, but for an unknown reason certain batches are actually shipping with 8 cores / 16 threads. This is what MSI have to say on the matter on their AMD blog space a few days ago:
A specific batch of Ryzen 5 1600 has been widely discussed lately that user will have a chance to get a free upgrade to 8-core CPU free of charge. The default CPU performance of this unique Ryzen 5 1600 CPU would be on par with AMD Ryzen 7 1700 according to the discussion over the internet. To confirm whether this news is fake or not, I managed to get this CPU from my local dealer today. Setting up my MSI B350 Tomahawk motherboard using this CPU and voila, the CPU-Z tells me the Ryzen 5 1600 has 8 Core 16 Threads.
In terms of the HWBOT rankings, this development obviously throws a proverbial spanner in the works. If you are using an 8-core chip to compete in 6-core Global First Place rankings, you clearly have an unfair advantage. To remedy the situation, Strunkenbold (our tireless maintainer of the HWBOT Hardware Database) has created two new CPU categories to accommodate these two new product SKUs; AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (8 Cores) and AMD Ryzen 5 1600X (8 Cores) . It’s also relevant to note that we are not officially considering these as ‘unlocked’ processors as the user doesn’t have to actually do anything to gain the extra two cores. Unlike previous AMD processors where extra cores and performance could be unlocked, these two new models are basically just mistakenly labeled.
In Week 45 of 2017, we received 4359 benchmark results from 1037 registered overclockers around the world. The majority of the submissions is coming from Rookie overclockers representing 59% of the active community. They were responsible for 37% of the submissions. We had a peek at the most valuable submissions in a breakdown per league.
During Week 45 of 2017, four overclockers made the leaderboard with a golden cup. First up is Dancop with two entries in this week's table. First up is a Global First Place in the XTU 6xCPU category with a score of 3788 marks. This was achieved with the current second-most popular CPU at HWBOT, the Core i7-8700K, at 6733 MHz. In addition, Dancop also broke the World Record in 3DMark06, setting the bar at 74336 marks. For this the same Core i7-8700K was used, but clocked at an incredible 7118 MHz. Next up is Splave with a Hardware First Place in the 3DMark Vantage Performance GeForce GTX 680 category. The top score is now 64358 marks and was achieved with the graphics card clocked at 1650/1900 MHz. Third overclocker to nail a golden cup is Traktor from Russia with a Hardware First Place in the 3DMark11 Performance 2x Radeon HD 7970 category. The new top score in the category is 28722 points and was achieved with the pair of graphics cards clocked at 1244/1691 MHz. Last but not least is Dr4gon1 from the United States. He scored a Hardware First Place in the Aquamark3 GeForce 8600 GTS graphics card. Congrats everyone!
The most used hardware components of Week 45 are the Core i7 7700K (10.0%), GeForce GTX 1080 (12.2%) and the ASUS ROG Rampage VI Apex (2.7%). In total the community used 330 different CPUs, 230 different GPUs and 749 different motherboards.
The overclocking results submitted during Week 45 generated in total 230 World Record Points, 9122.3 Global Points, and 6888.5 Hardware Points. The distribution per League is as follows: 15% for Elite, 23% for Extreme, 11% for Apprentice, 23% for Enthusiast, 9% for Novice, and 31% for Rookie. The representation of the active community is as follows: 2% Elite, 7% Extreme, 4% Apprentice, 17% Enthusiast, 11% Novice, and 59% Rookie.
Most Valuable Submissions - Week 45, 2017
|League||CPU Benchmark||GPU Benchmark||Hardware Points|
|Elite||Dancop||198.6 pts (GFP!)||Dancop||122.5 pts (WR!)||Splave||48.0 pts|
|Extreme||Electron Libre||83.4 pts||Noppon1412||54.6 pts||Traktor||48.8 pts|
|Apprentice||Topyoyoguybest||34.0 pts||CptSpig||44.9 pts||Da__rk||23.3 pts|
|Enthusiast||KaRtA||63.0 pts||Even.de||47.3 pts||KaRtA||49.8 pts|
|Novice||Bottangelo78||40.3 pts||Dr4gon1||29 pts||Dr4gon1||29 pts|
|Rookie||Petry||60.9 pts||MegaLegan||35.5 pts||Leker16||39.7 pts|
Here’s a deal that may just whet the appetite of some HWBOT members. Futuremark has teamed up with Newegg to retail its benchmark software. To celebrate the deal, the company is offering discount rates on three of its popular benchmark suites; 3DMark, VRMark and PCMark 10. The standout deal for many of us will doubtless be the 3DMark deal which let’s you take the Advanced Edition of the suite for a mere $4.49 US. Sounds like a good deal to me. Here’s a sample from the official announcement.
Futuremark, the developer of the world's most widely used benchmarking software, today announced a new partnership with Newegg, the leading tech-focused e-retailer in North America. The partnership sees Newegg complement its comprehensive selection of PC components and complete systems with Futuremark's popular 3DMark, VRMark and PCMark 10 benchmarks. It's a winning combination: everything you need to build and benchmark a new PC in one place.
Newegg has long been the preferred destination for tech-savvy PC users when buying or building a new PC or upgrading individual components. Futuremark benchmark tests have helped millions of people test, compare and understand PC performance. Now for the first time, PC enthusiasts can buy Futuremark benchmarks from the same place they buy their components and accessories.
Spain’s most ardent and hardest working OC evangelists will be returning to Catalonia, Spain this weekend with ChentinoX and the Spanish Overclockers engaging with Spanish enthusiasts gamers at the Mollerussa Lan Party. Organized in conjunction with the HWBOT X, the guys will be teaching attendees the ins and outs of overclocking, also giving them a chance to taste the competitive side of things for the first time.
The Lan party event is held in the city of Mollerusa each year with avid gamers and enthusiasts from the Catalonia region of the country getting together for a weekend of fun including Video game tournaments, modding, workshops and competitions. Building on the success of last year, ChentinoX and other members of the Spanish Overclockers Club will again be in attendance to introduce the art of Overclocking.
The event will include workshops that introduce the basics of ambient overclocking on Day 1, followed by competitive action on Day 2. After a Classification round using the XTU benchmark, leading combatants will be face each other in Semi-Final and Final matches. Its should prove to be a very fun day.
You can learn more about the HWBOT X Mollerussa 2017 event here on the HWBOT X website. If you live in the Catalonia region of Spain, be sure to stop by.
Many members of the tech media are familiar with overclocking to some degree. Motherboard and graphics card reviewers have to know how to tweak the BIOS to assess the basic overclocking ability of the product, sure. But how much else do they really know about the what lies beyond? Indeed the realm of extreme overclocking remains a mystery to many of the worlds tech savvy writers and YouTubers, a fact that actually makes it rather refreshing to see mainstream YouTube tech personality JayzTwoCents get schooled in the dark art of LN2 overclocking by no other than the legendary Vince ‘k|ngp|n’ Lucido.
Vince went back to his native US and paid a visit to Jayz studio to give him a full-on lesson in LN2 overclocking with the EVGA GTX 1080Ti Kingpin Edition card. Vince introduces the design of the card and how it is designed specifically for extreme overclocking. The VRM is capable of keeping pace with some incredibly high clocks that could end up in a power delivery of up to 1,200 watts. Hence the need for two PSUs in the lab. Vince starts off with a lesson in what you actually need to push GPUs on LN2. He introduces the LN2 pots, the voltage and heat monitoring gear and several pieces of the puzzle to Jay including the Inferno Heater which helps keep certain parts of the board from icing up. Steep learning curves for sure.
Among other things, what follows is a step by step guide to insulating the right components in the right way, how to mount the LN2 pot on the card and lots of detailed advice about how Vince sets up his rig in preparation for a real sub-zero benching session. Finally, the LN2 makes an appearance and the pair start filing flasks (plus a great intro as to why you shouldn’t wear gloves or socks). Jay does eventually get hands on and starts pushing both CPU and GPU, with an LN2 flask in hand of course. There’s even a flirt with a new Time Spy World record.
I’m sure that there are folks out there who would prefer the art of LN2 overclocking stay in the esoteric shadows of darkened man caves around the globe. Personally, I think its great to see a more mainstream media platform try out some genuine LN2 overclocking with one of the game’s biggest stars. Check out the video here on the JayzTwoCents YouTube channel